Demodectic Mange and Sarcoptic Mange in Dogs
Demodectic mange or demodex is found in younger dogs and caused by mites. Sarcoptic mange is a little more serious.
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Louise and Portland
This video is being uploaded to show how vicious (or not) Louise is. Louise followed my wife and our dog home from a walk the night before our wedding. No tags, no chips. Left on the street, likely, because of her demodectic mange (I mispronounce it as dendritic in the video because I’m cool and never make mistakes). It’s being treated (little squirt of medicine in the mouth once a day). Because she can not be left alone with our dog at this time, and because of the nasty heat wave, we have had to board her at our vet’s for the last couple days. That, along with the bills for her medicine and diagnosis, has drained out all of the money that was given to us as wedding gifts and we have no choice but to bring her to a shelter if we can’t find an adopter or foster ASAP.
Check out some stills of her at http://picasaweb.google.com/aandyd/Louise
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Can anyone help my friend on the mange subject?
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Hi so I thought I would re post this as I left details out etc…
So recently my friends girl had puppy’s (a cross breed litter of 6 4x black and 2x mixed color’s) and the b@tch got really ill and had to go for a op so was taken away from the pups from the start (she was with them for the first 2 hours) then had to have the op and was then put back with the pups once she was home, as all pups they had a weak immune system and so did mum (my friend then being a complete and utter idiot let a dog who had demodex mange around the mum and pups, the vet told her that she can carry the mange and ‘pass’ on the mange to the pups and mum as their immune systems where weak so she had to use and anti bacterial gel every time before handling the pups!).
After 3 weeks she took the pups for another check up and the vets noticed that they had little bald spots and done skin scrapings on every pup and it was diagnosed as demodex mange so she was treating it with advocate and it appeared to be working but obviously it is an ongoing treatment (other than the mange the puppy’s where in healthy condition putting on weight very well etc etc, so before anyone says they must have been left in appalling conditions to get this mange they were not they were in good condition and she has vet recs to prove so!), she then advertised the puppy’s for free but told everyone who inquired about them that they have the demodex mange but it is treatable with advocate from the vet (she explained that the vet would have to either do another skin scraping or would just visibly see that the puppy needed to have more of the treatment).
Recently she received an email of one of the people who took two of the puppy’s (one for her one for her friend) saying the puppy’s had sarcoptic mange…email shown below
‘i have had the worst 72 hours of my life….
my hairy dog fell in a lake and ended up coasting me £400 at the same time i mention to my vet about puppy itching… and pointed out a rash on my arm…. he then points out that its mange…
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so not only have i had to treat her my 2… my rats.. and me…. the vet bill is now 650…. you promised me that she didn’t have mange and that it was just the black ones…. and its sarcoptic mange not the one you said it was….
my friend is fuming as well.. i feel upset that you didn’t tell me from the start…
i could of treated her alot earlier to of saved pain and discomfort…. and also my animals… and myself as its more time of work for me….
she has been treated with advocate and has 6 months worth and so are mine my rats are not in a good way as there old…
i am still unsure as to what i am going to do about this situation…..
i am hoping that me telling you that me you and my friend can come to some sort of arrangement…..’
the thing is she told everyone that the puppy’s had demodex mange, she said it was clearly visible on the black puppy’s BUT she couldn’t see it on the mix colored puppy’s but that didn’t mean they didn’t have the mange and she should go to the vet and get them checked telling the vet that the puppy’s had/have demodex mange. This woman is now expecting my friend to pay for her dog falling in the lake and the treatment for her other dogs and animals (and this wwoman’sfriend is expecting my friend to pay for all the animals in her house as well), but they where told that the puppy’s COULD still have the demodex mange and should be checked by the vet and even told them what treatment to use.
I didn’t think that sarcoptic mange could be treated by advocate?
Is my friend in any fault? as she did tell the people from the start that there is still a good chance that the puppy’s have demodex mange as they where diagnosed with it from the start and where being treated with it. Shouldn’t they have taken the puppy’s to the vet and got them checked out anyway?!
Also how could the puppy’s have developed sarcoptic mange if they where diagnosed with demodex mange? none of the other puppy’s have sarcoptic mange they all have demodex mange?!
She was willing to pay for the puppy’s treatment but only if they where brought back to her as the new owners hadn’t taken the puppy’s to the vet until a week later. None of the other puppy’s given away have the sarcoptic mange only these 2 which makes no sense!
She has told the women that she is willing to pay for the puppy’s treatment if they are brought back to her but she is not willing to pay for the other animals treatment as it is the people’s fault as they did not take the puppy’s to the vet (like any normal people would!)
anne b: i said above why i deleted the question!!! the puppy’s didn’t have sarcoptic mange before going to new homes they had demodex mites which was being treated just needed on going treatment, she explained this to everyone and people where still happy enough to take the puppy’s so she was not scamming anyone or anything as they where FREE!!!
Why should she have to pay for other animals catching this mange when while the puppy’s where in her care they never had it?! vet records can prove they never sarcoptic mange that they had demodex mites and none of the other puppy’s that where given away had sarcoptic mange they have demodex mites.
Going with your questions at the end here:
1. I didn’t think that sarcoptic mange could be treated by advocate?
-No, it can’t be.
2. Is my friend in any fault?
-Hard to say.
Demodectic mange would be the mange a vet would suspect in young, indoor-raised puppies with an unhealthy dam, absolutely. That’s what she was told by HER vet was going on, and she dutifully treated for it and informed puppy buyers.
The issue is whether demodectic mange was the right diagnosis. Dogs with sarcoptic mange tend to scratch uncontrollably, so even though is very hard to diagnose with skin scrapings, chronically itchy puppies should have suggested to your friend and her vet that sarcoptic mange was potentially the issue. Skin scrapings fail to find sarcoptic mange mites AT LEAST half the time, and treating for it–the maybe mange test- is often necessary to properly diagnose sarcoptic mange.
The OTHER possibility is that the pup got sarcoptic mange after going to the new home.
3. Shouldn’t they have taken the puppy’s to the vet and got them checked out anyway?!
-Yes, absolutely, within 24-48 hours of bringing the pups home. Your friend should have required this in her contracts.
4.Also how could the puppy’s have developed sarcoptic mange if they where diagnosed with demodex mange? none of the other puppy’s have sarcoptic mange they all have demodex mange?!
They could have gotten sarcoptic mange by being around another animal with sarcoptic mange. It spreads quite easily from one dog to the next, from racoons, foxes, etc.
Yes, they can actually get both.
Are you 100% SURE the other puppies don’t have sarcoptic mange? If you are, then this one puppy got it after he went home.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_sarcoptic_mange.html
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/demodectic_mange.html
ETA: Contrary to what another poster said, humans CAN get sarcoptic mange, although it’s a self-limiting infection in humans as the mites can’t reproduce on humans.
ETA: My dog had sarcoptic mange when I adopted her from the shelter. She had been in a foster home (as were all their pups) and the shelter didn’t know about the mange.
Because i took her to the vet w/in 24 hours, I had no problem at all getting the shelter to reimburse me for the costs of treatment.
My dog was one on which the scrapings didn’t find the mites, although she couldn’t even eat without stopping to scratch herself, so we began a series of ivermectin injections that cleared it. (The so-called “Maybe Mange” test.)
She had been living mainly outdoors with the foster family’s other dogs, so we’re pretty sure it came from foxes and ALL their dogs also needed treatment because it’s so contagious!
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